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Re:Berichte über schwere Erkrankungen von jüngeren flat
Autor: DasReptil
Datum:24.03.20 10:20
Antwort auf:Berichte über schwere Erkrankungen von jüngeren von C.D.G

>Das wird halt nicht behauptet sondern ist Realität. Berichte darüber sind überall im Netz zu finden. Nachfolgend einige Beispiele:
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>COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, has been much deadlier in older people, but more anecdotes are popping up of young, healthy people getting critically ill. Among the first reported cases in the US, around 40 percent of the patients that required hospitalization were between the ages of 20 and 54, according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
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>[https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/21184291/coronavirus-covid-19-young-people-sick-vulnerable-affected-severe-cases]
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>A dear friend in Madrid is in a coma with Covid-19. He’s under 40 and was in excellent condition. So much for it only killing the old and infirm. Why are NYC bars and restaurants still open?
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>[https://twitter.com/JamesStewartNYT/status/1239305959337537536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1239305959337537536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theverge.com%2F2020%2F3%2F17%2F21184291%2Fcoronavirus-covid-19-young-people-sick-vulnerable-affected-severe-cases]
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>“Although older people are hardest hit, younger people are not spared. Data from many countries clearly show that people under 50 make up a significant proportion of patients requiring hospitalisation,” Tedros told a virtual press conference.
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>[https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/who-message-to-youth-on-coronavirus-you-are-not-invincible]
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>On Wednesday, the White House's coronavirus response coordinator, Dr. Deborah Birx, pointed to such data from other countries, describing "concerning reports coming out of France and Italy about some young people getting seriously ill, and very seriously ill in the ICUs."
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>[https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/20/health/covid-19-young-adults-sick-spreading/index.html]
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>It first struck me how different it was when I saw my first coronavirus patient go bad. I was like, Holy shit, this is not the flu. Watching this relatively young guy, gasping for air, pink frothy secretions coming out of his tube
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>Since last week, he’s been running ventilators for the sickest COVID-19 patients. Many are relatively young, in their 40s and 50s, and have minimal, if any, preexisting conditions in their charts. He is overwhelmed, stunned by the manifestation of the infection, both its speed and intensity. The ICU where he works has essentially become a coronavirus unit. He estimates that his hospital has admitted dozens of confirmed or presumptive coronavirus patients. About a third have ended up on ventilators.

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>[https://www.propublica.org/article/a-medical-worker-describes--terrifying-lung-failure-from-covid19-even-in-his-young-patients]


Das ist alles sehr vage und größtenteils wird auch wieder alles quer durcheinandergehauen.

40% der Patienten in den USA sind also zwischen 20 und 54, das sagt uns erstmal absolut gar nichts. Wieviele von den 40% sind 20, 30, 40, 50? Wieviele davon haben Vorerkrankungen (gerade in den USA mit der grassierenden Fettleibigkeit ist das ein Riesenfaktor).

Weiter gehts:

"Since last week, he’s been running ventilators for the sickest COVID-19 patients. Many are relatively young, in their 40s and 50s, and have minimal, if any, preexisting conditions in their charts."

Es wird also nur auf die medizinischen Unterlagen der Patienten geguckt und nicht tatsächlich geprüft (was natürlich auch nicht immer möglich sein wird)ob Vorerkrankungen vorliegen.

Was ich da insgesamt herauslese ist, dass es einige sehr sehr seltene Fälle geben könnte bei denen relativ junge Leute ohne Vorerkrankungen stark betroffen sind.

Von einer Quote von 15 bis 20% aller Altersgruppen die im Krankenhaus landen kann da aber bei weitem keine Rede sein.


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