| Helmuth von Moltke zum Döner: |  |
"To trail the history it is worth going back to the old Ottoman empire, year 1836. Helmuth von Moltke, a Prussian general stationed in current day Turkey gives the first description in German of a Döner Kebab "ein sehr gutes, schmackhaftes Gericht.""
[https://dasdoenermuseum.de/blogs/news/the-birth-of-the-doner]
Der moderne Döner, wie wir ihn heute kennen, ist laut der Seite tatsächlich ein Berliner Ding:
"The success of the Döner Kebab in Berlin might come from the fact that when the Döner was introduced in Berlin, the snack evolved. Besides meat and onions, tomatoes, cucumber, cabbage and the sauces that have become so known today were added. In this way the Turkish snack was adapted to a German palate making it a prime example of the integration of Turkish and German culture. This story of a successful partnership of Turkish and German food traditions might be a huge part in explaining, why the Döner has become such a symbol of the modern, multicultural Berlin we know today."
Der Döner ist also ein Symbol des multikulturellen Berlin, dass erst zu Lebzeiten so mancher Forumsmitglieder erfunden worden ist!
Nebenbei: Döner mit Rotkraut/Blaukraut>Döner ohne das!